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Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Kraftdam467 » mån 13 maj 2019, 06:24

https://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/fyra- ... manbukten/

Är det någon som har mer information om det här? Artikeln är bakom betalvägg.

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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Holger » mån 13 maj 2019, 06:28

Här finns lite mer info:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... -sabotaged
(Googla på "4 oil tankers sabotage", det kommer upp en massa träffar)




(Löjlig utveckling med dessa betalväggar! Vill de ha betalt ska de sälja papperstidning!)

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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Laza » ons 15 maj 2019, 09:50

Här fanns en lite bättre bild:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48245204

Ser ut som om någonting har rammat fartyget akterifrån.


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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av bengt » ons 15 maj 2019, 10:51

Antagligen är det amerikanska "navy seals" som agerar så att Iran ska få skulden för sprängningarna.

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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Holger » ons 15 maj 2019, 11:47

Vad tusan är det som orsakar sådana skador? Det ser ju helmysko ut!


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Re: Amerikanska CIA igen?

Inlägg av bengt » ons 15 maj 2019, 13:00

På 60-talet var jag ofta i Balikpappan med tankbåt. Då hörde jag om bombningar av båtar men inget detaljerat.
Numera är det känt vad som hänt.
Om det hände då så ligger det nära till hands att Amerika även är skyldigt till de nyliga sprängningarna vid Hormozsundet.

Från https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_San_Flaviano

"Bombed and sunk by the CIA

San Flaviano's career was cut short in 1958. On 28 April San Flaviano was in Balikpapan Harbour, in the East Kalimantan Province of Borneo, when a Douglas B-26 Invader bomber aircraft, flown by the CIA and painted black and with no markings,[2] bombed and sank her.[1][3][4][5] San Flaviano had nearly finished discharging a cargo of crude oil, leaving her tanks full of highly flammable gas.[6] The CIA aircraft hit San Flaviano with one or more 500-pound (227-kg) bombs amidships on her starboard side.[6] Fire and explosions spread rapidly along that side of the ship, either destroying her starboard lifeboats or making them inaccessible.[6] Nevertheless, her officers and crew launched both port lifeboats within four minutes, successfully evacuating everyone including a passenger, the Chief Officer's wife.[6] San Flaviano sank near the entrance of Balikpapan harbour.[6]

In response, Royal Dutch Shell suspended its tanker service to Balikpapan and evacuated shore-based wives and families to Singapore.[4] Most of San Flaviano's complement were also evacuated to Singapore, travelling on two oil tankers of Anglo-Saxon Petroleum, another of Royal Dutch Shell's British subsidiaries.[6] The first 26 from San Flaviano left that same day on MV Daronia, which had had a narrow escape in the same air raid.[6] Another 24 from San Flaviano followed a few days later on MV Dromus, leaving the Master (Captain Jack Bright) and his senior officers as the only people from San Flaviano still in Balikpapan.[6]

In June 1958 both the Indonesian and UK governments claimed that the aircraft had been flown by Indonesian rebels.[4] In fact only the radio operator was from the Permesta rebels in North Sulawesi.[7] The B-26, its 500 lb (230 kg) bombs and its pilot, former United States Army Air Forces officer William H. Beale, were sent by the CIA as part of US covert support for the rebellion.[7] The CIA pilots had orders to target commercial shipping to drive foreign merchant ships away from Indonesian waters, thereby weakening the Indonesian economy and destabilising the Indonesian government of President Sukarno.[3] Shell's suspension of operations and partial evacuation of personnel was exactly what the CIA attack was intended to achieve.

For some months previously, UK Prime Minister Harold Macmillan and Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd had supported US policy to aid Permesta.[8] On 6 May 1958, more than a week after the CIA sank San Flaviano, Lloyd secretly told US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles that this was still his position.[9] On 18 May, Indonesian forces shot down a different Permesta B-26 and captured its CIA pilot, Allen Pope.[10][11] Nevertheless, in June 1958 both Indonesia and the UK publicly claimed that the aircraft had been flown by Indonesian rebels,[4] concealing the CIA involvement of which both governments were well aware. "

Från https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Daroni ... by_the_CIA

"On 28 April 1958 Daronia was in Balikpapan Harbour, in the East Kalimantan Province of Borneo when a Douglas B-26 Invader bomber aircraft, flown by the CIA and painted black and with no markings,[4] attacked the Shell oil terminal there. The Invader bombed a larger tanker, Eagle Oil and Shipping's SS San Flaviano, setting her on fire and sinking her, and then attacked Daronia.[5][6][7]

Daronia and her sister ships had unusually high ventilators for their mid-ship pump rooms.[8] The B-26 dropped a 500-pound (227-kg) bomb that hit her port ventilator, but instead of exploding it bounced off towards her starboard ventilator and then fell harmlessly into the sea.[8] Daronia had a full load of petrol,[8] so if the bomb had detonated the effects would almost certainly have been devastating.

As a consequence Daronia left Balikpapan that same day for the safety of Singapore, taking with her 26 of San Flaviano's rescued crew.[9] A further 24 crew from San Flaviano followed a few days later on another Anglo-Saxon tanker, Dromus.[9] Shell also evacuated shore-based wives and families to Singapore and suspended its tanker service to Balikpapan.[6]

In June 1958 both the Indonesian and UK governments claimed that the aircraft had been flown by Indonesian rebels.[6] In fact only the radio operator was from the Permesta rebels in North Sulawesi.[10] The B-26, its bombs and its pilot, former USAAF officer William H. Beale, were sent by the CIA as part of US covert support for the rebellion.[10] The CIA pilots had orders to target foreign merchant ships to drive foreign trade away from Indonesian waters, thereby weakening the Indonesian economy and destabilising the Indonesian government of President Sukarno.[5] Shell's suspension of operations and partial evacuation of personnel was exactly what the CIA attack was intended to achieve.

For some months previously, UK Prime Minister Harold Macmillan and Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd had supported US policy to supply Permesta.[11] On 6 May 1958, more than a week after the CIA sank San Flaviano and hit Daronia, Lloyd secretly told US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles that this was still his position.[12] On 18 May, Indonesian forces shot down a different Permesta B-26 and captured its CIA pilot, Allen Pope.[13][14] Nevertheless, in June 1958 both Indonesia and the UK publicly claimed that the aircraft had been flown by Indonesian rebels,[6] concealing the CIA involvement of which both governments were well aware."


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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Lars H » tor 16 maj 2019, 17:28

Konspirationsteorier dyker alltid upp vid sådana här händelser. Man kan ju bara komma ihåg 9/11 då händelserna på Manhattan av många ansågs vara en följd ett samarbete mellan USA och Israel!

Hur som helst är det ofta USA och då särskilt CIA som är ondskan personifierad. Känns enklast så att förklara mycket elände här i världen. Särskilt om det är lite komplicerat. Nu kommer myndigheterna i UAE att utreda det här med bla hjälp av Frankrike. Men det kommer nog inte att minska folks konspirationsteorier. Här en artikel, av många, om det inträffade.

https://maritime-executive.com/article/ ... ur-tankers


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Re: Sabotage mot tankfartyg

Inlägg av Kehinde » fre 17 maj 2019, 13:13

Det sitter i ryggmärgen hos många personer och länder, att skylla det mesta negativa, som händer, på USA.
Det "vet " ju alla, att t.ex. AIDS och Ebola är amerikanska försök med biologiska vapen, som gått snett. Åtminstone om man lyssnar på "fakta" från vissa länder på bl.a. den afrikanska kontinenten.
Bl.a. stavas den amerikanska frivillighjälpen US-AID ibland US-AIDS i vissa länder.

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